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Post GOP Convention Polls: Clinton will still win (so don't freak out)

The table below summarizes the GOP bounce thus far in the four polls I have seen.  It also tries to put it in context.  Right now Trump looks like he got about an average bounce from the Convention.  There is some evidence that polls showing larger Clinton leads showed larger bounces.

I have reposted here analysis I did at Bleeding Heartland on Monday.  Don’t freak out.  If you feel like you are, consider this:

After the Democratic Convention in 1984, Walter Mondale LEAD Reagan 49-47 in a Newsweek poll. He lost by 18. At the end of the GOP Convention he trailed by 24

After the Democratic Convention in 1988, Dukakis lead Bush by 17 in three different polls. By the end of the GOP Convention he trailed by 6

After the GOP Convention in 2008 McCain lead by 10 in a Gallup poll.  The lead was gone in a week.

There is all the reason in the World the Democratic Convention will produce  a larger bounce.  The undecided are mainly under 40, and predisposed to the Democratic Ticket given Trump’s unpopularity with the young.  My prediction is Clinton will be up about 10 in a week.

So keep calm.

Here is what I posted on Bleeding Heartland on Monday:

In any election there are a few predictable and important events. Few are as important as the Conventions. How important? Here are some basic facts:

In the 12 elections since 1968, the candidate leading in polling after the second convention has won the popular vote 11 times, and the only exception led by less than a point (McCain in 2008).

The candidate leading 3 weeks after the second convention has NEVER lost the popular vote.

No candidate has EVER won if they trailed after their convention. EVER.

10 of 11 candidates who led by more than 5 after their convention won (Dukakis in ’88 is the only exception.

A table summarizing the data is set forth below. In addition, my database of presidential polling (which is the most complete online) is here.

But let’s start looking at a chart and a table:

Convention Bounces

This is not to say that what happens after conventions doesn’t matter. But the data is clear, conventions set the tone for the rest of the race. So what follows here is a very deep dive into the data on Conventions.

I have been writing about Conventions since 2008 at Openleft. So here is a summary of the lessons I have learned:

Conventions can fundamentally remake the public‘s perception of a candidate

The VP selection matters a whole lot

Turmoil at conventions can sink candidates

Campaigns seldom change between the last convention and the first debate.

1. Conventions can fundamentally remake the public’s perception of a candidate

Conventions are unique. They focus attention on candidates and their personalities. As a result, they can completely change the public’s perception about them.

The largest bounce a candidate has ever received from a convention was Bill Clinton in 1992. Part of the reason for this was that Ross Perot declared he was leaving the race right before the Democratic Convention. But the Convention also significantly changed the public’s perception of Bill Clinton. This shows the favorability rating of Bill Clinton in CBS polling.

As the data shows, Clinton went from -24 (which is as large as Hillary’s unfavorable gap, it is wrong to say Hillary and Trump are the two least liked candidates in modern history) to plus 6. Moreover, this was a lasting change in his perception.

This is pretty typical. A review of the favorable ratings

for John McCain, , shows a bounce in some polling after the GOP Convention in 2008.

The relevance this year seems obvious. Both Clinton and Trump are very disliked. The Conventions offer their best chance as reversing this trend.

But the obvious should be noted. Candidates are better known than they were 20 years ago before the conventions, and the electorate is more polarized. As a result it will be tougher to change perceptions than it was previously.

2. The Vice-Presidential nomination matters a whole lot

The ultimate cautionary tale about Vice Presidents remains the sad tale of George McGovern and his choice of Thomas Eagleton for Vice President. After the convention it become known that Eagleton had received elctro-shock therapy. Initially McGovern defended the Eagleton choice by saying he was “1,000 percent behind him”. Within days of saying that though, Eagleton asked off the ticket. This table shows the reaction. The Eagelton debacle actually left McGovern further behind that he was at the state of the Democratic Convention.

A good deal of the bounce that a candidate gets is a result of the reaction to his VP selection. We know this because in years where the VP was named ahead of the convention, the candidate gets a bounce from the naming of the VP choice, but little bounce from the convention itself.

Neither candidate has decided to name their VP in advance of the convention like Kerry did in 2004 or Romney did in 2012. Based on my data this was a smart decision.

By the way: 538 is wrong about Clinton being the same place as Kerry was in 2004. By this time in 2004 Kerry had already named his Vice President. Given what we know about the effect of VP announcements on Convention Bounces, it is very wrong to compare the two and say they are in the same place.

3. Turmoil at conventions can sink candidates

There are numerous examples of conventions in turmoil. Two of the more famous were the 1968 and 1972 Democratic Conventions. In 1968 there were protests culminating in an attack of protesters in the streets. The event, which ultimately was termed a “police riot” in the investigation performed after the convention, severely hurt the bounce Humphrey got out of the Democratic Convention. Similarly, in 1972 there were floor fights over busing planks that were very divisive. The Convention was so badly managed McGovern did not perform his acceptance speech in prime time.

4. Conventions define elections

The table below summarizes the effect conventions have on the rest of the campaign. To be sure, events after them matter. Large leads have melted (1968, 1976) though the leading candidate still won.

But in general, campaigns stay static between conventions and election day. Caution is in order though: note that this is the earliest that both conventions have completed in modern political history.

Tags: 2016 ElectionsDonald TrumpHillary ClintonHistory

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